by AlaskaStar » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:47 am
OK, this thread is about electrolysis or the use of electricity to break down the hydrogen and oxygen bonds in water/ or disturb as such to split the covalent bonds and thereby convert water into it's constituent elements.
So I will quote from another on this site:
Two questions
1. Does anyone know what the acctual fracture point is? [Fracture point is when the intermoleculare bondings breaks] recuired energy. According to one researcher: To ionize (remove) a hydrogen atom from a water molecule, it takes 13.6 eV (electron volts) = 2.17895999 × 10-18 joules - you dont need to be a genuis to understand that this creates HO + H gas.
"Voltage breakdown" is not electrolysis! "Voltage breakdown" uses pure water as an insulator, whereas electrolysis requires electrolyte" .. now this is where it becomes confusing.
2. If voltage breakdown acctually works, why are we hung up on the electrolyser? (since this methode is greener)
I understand that now one knows the exact numbers (that´s a flat fact), but a few simple question ought to point us to the right answer, not necessary the ONE, but att least it should help us speculate less and get hold of some real data .. right? Becose there is a huge differense between 1,24V and 13,6V - this is not current, only voltage and here it commes.
How much amperage is required to perform work? ...
One answer arise ten questions, and i think this equation is true. Very Happy i am sure keeping everybody busy!
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Instead of looking to break water down using electricity, why doesn't one look at the water molecule itself, but not in the terms that we have become accustomed to? Here's a better theory:
The covalent electric bonds that keep hydrogen and oxygen stable in the form of liquid water at room temp (20 C) is where we need to look.
HOW MUCH ENERGY IS IN THAT BOND?
HOW MANY AMPS/ VOLTS/ WATTS ARE HOLDING WATER TOGETHER?
so now instead of looking to input energy to break the bond, is it electrically possible to generate an ABSENCE OF ENERGY to cause such a VOID that the bond releases this electrical charge to fill the void and allow the water to be broken down to it's basic elements? If this can be accomplished, I would suggest using this method of incurring an absence of energy to perform the work, and thereby allowing the operator to control the exact amount of negative energy would be like controlling the valve on your water spigot, but it would control the amount of hydrogen converted and at whatever speed one would desire.
And since space travel was 'never going to be possible' in the year 1874, today, regarding space flights.... it is a common household knowledge that is is possible, but in 1874 hadn't been accomplished YET.
Naysayers: don't say it's not possible, you are only selling yourself short. Open your mind to the possibilities and focus your energy to proving it's possible and reap the rewards for being the FIRST to accomplish it.
So here's what I came up with so far:
2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen make 1 mole of water.
'mole' is short for 'molecule'. (for those who didn't yet know....those who did know, please keep quiet...)
How much energy is in 1 mole of water, contained within the covalent bonds?
How much of a void (electrical) is required to break that bond for 1 mole of water?
Where can we put this electrical power once we remove it from the water?
How many moles are in 1 gallon of water?
How much power (electrical) is in 1 gallon of water waiting to be removed by a void of whatever sort?
Would a technology like this make hydrogen not needed as a fuel, but more of a byproduct of the electrical extraction of electricity from water?
What would this do to revolutionize the industries?
This concludes my thought line. Out of the box thinkers, please let's hear your thought on this.
In the box thinkers, please, lets not have the impossibility talk here. It can be done, it just hasn't happened YET.
AlaskaStar
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