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Postby moses » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:21 am

sooo we should probably get an msds sheet for these experiments?
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Postby waterbard » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:54 pm

Bzzz...
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Postby waterbard » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:56 pm

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Postby williamssteve » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:02 pm

Well regards things that can ruin your day...like an univited nuke.....

Generally speaking ( and this is way off track ) , there is enough in scientific literature that clearly spells out the health risk with fluoride. In particular the ammount you ingest while brushing ( equivalent to about 2 mg/day in 1000 ppm fluoride toothpaste ) is just the right ammount to start supressing thyroid function ( i.e. hypothyroidism ) and start messing metabolic function across the whole body. Fluoride is so toxic generally it isnt allowed to be buried or burnt, so its disposed of in humans via clever advertising and govt supported marketing. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I justt tell it how it is. And yes, you were right, the Nazis did use it as a mind altering substance to make prisoners docile and easier to control. The russians did it in their stalags too.

Fluoride interferes with whole of body DNA function and accelerates aging and generally gets in the way of all cellular activity across the board.

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In Australia, Sydney has fluoridated water, Brisbane does not.
Both have the same rate of tooth decay.
Result - fluoridation of water does not work in reducing tooth decay.
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In Victoria ( a state in Australia ) they changed the state constitution to stop high court appeals against removal of fluoridation. Um...that would be in effect state forced medication. A bit like the scene when people were oreder by law to be forcibly vaccinated at a Maryland court house in the US some time back.

Fascism is rearing its ugly head world wide again.....
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Postby huck » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:23 pm

you sure they don't just eat more candy in Sydney? ;)
J/K I agree with what ya say...if its so good then why does everyone drink bottled water now days? :)
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Postby Looking In » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:12 am

Here's a warning from ZeroFossilFuel. Plus some information about Jarboe's Mill recap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxWQZJw5RnQ
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Postby FlashBang » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:31 am

Here is a thought, lots of descriptions of engines after running Hydroxy Boosters claim to have some kind of metallic coating on them, and are very clean etc. Perhaps the chromium vapor described in a previous post is escaping the electrolyte chamber with the Hydroxy Gas and is actually coating all the metal surfaces of the engine including the valves. If that is the case, the there is probably very little of this making its way out into the atmosphere.

Of greater concern, would be how you dispose of your "used" electrolyte when you do change it out. I have been giving this some thought, and if anyone is going to be able to successfully market these "boosters" as an aftermarket technology to the general public, will have to address this as a public safety concern. Because something like this would be exactly what the OIL Companies will use to convince the DOT and EPA that this technology is unsuitable for mass use.

I guess someone is going to have to spring for "Platinum Plates" and start testing all over again. Actually, can you get platinum plated plates... if the platinum does not react with the electrolyte, the plating could be pretty thin and would certainly reduce costs considerably over solid platinum plates.

Alternatively, what if we could prove that the level of haxavalent chromium that made its way out the exhaust pipe was within EPA and public health tolerances and we had an EPA approved disposal method for used electrolyte????? Would this satisfy the safety concern?

I guess the real determining factor in this scenario is the "average" gain experienced at the pump for those with boosters versus the cost of the disposal of the spent electrolyte.

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Postby FlashBang » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:04 am

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