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OUPower.com Discussion Board for Over Unity Power Research 2008-05-16T23:07:49-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/feed.php?f=1&t=1897 2008-05-16T23:07:49-04:00 2008-05-16T23:07:49-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17980#p17980 <![CDATA[Electrolysis and Electrolyte]]> Statistics: Posted by SeaMonkey — Fri May 16, 2008 11:07 pm


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2008-05-16T18:02:05-04:00 2008-05-16T18:02:05-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17976#p17976 <![CDATA[454 TO HUGEDULLIE]]> Statistics: Posted by rampage263 — Fri May 16, 2008 6:02 pm


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2008-04-25T19:51:50-04:00 2008-04-25T19:51:50-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17754#p17754 <![CDATA[electrolytes]]> Statistics: Posted by busguy — Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:51 pm


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2008-04-24T16:45:27-04:00 2008-04-24T16:45:27-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17743#p17743 <![CDATA[Stainless and Acid Electrolyte]]>
It does completely ionize in water solution so is an effective electrolyte.

The "rusting" that you experience with 304 is quite normal. It is the surface iron in the stainless being oxidized. With "conditioning" of the plates for several ( about 10 ) hours at a low current level (1 to 2 amperes) it will eventually cease.

This should be done on the bench before installing the cell/s in your car. When finished, drain the electrolyte, replace with fresh, run again for a couple of hours to confirm that the conditioning is complete ( no more rust ), then it should be ready to go.

After you've done the conditioning you'll notice that the plates have taken on a surface coating. This is very good.

Most people do use either Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide; but there are several other options.

Just stay away from Sodium Bicarbonate ( Baking Soda ) as it will "poison" the stainless plates and reduce the efficiency of your cells.

Vinegar ( Acetic Acid ) is another poor choice since it is not completely ionized in water solution and is not a good electrolyte.

You're making very good progress in your experiments with the electrolyzers. Keep up the good work!

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2008-04-23T19:35:47-04:00 2008-04-23T19:35:47-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17735#p17735 <![CDATA[HugeDuallie questions]]> Thanks again for your help.

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2008-04-06T11:12:43-04:00 2008-04-06T11:12:43-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17587#p17587 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> , I'm still tweaking to get more. Has anyone had any luck on PMW?

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2008-04-06T00:23:59-04:00 2008-04-06T00:23:59-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17585#p17585 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> Statistics: Posted by onlineatvsalvage — Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:23 am


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2008-04-05T23:41:16-04:00 2008-04-05T23:41:16-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17584#p17584 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> 1&1/2 teaspoon per gallon is what works for me. But each cell might have some differences, it depends on the stainless (not all stainless is created equal). If you can make 2 cells from the same stainless stock you shouldn't have any trouble with this. The only time I've had any trouble is when I used up a bunch of left over pieces of flat stock. The electric's are simple 12 volt, I use a 30 amp relay controled by a toggle switch and ignition switch, the toggle is just incase you want turn it off which I do, I always start the engine then turn on the cells. I installed a 25 amp circuit breaker just off the cell( this protects from over loads to the relay).Power into the first cell, ground on the second cell (hooked in series). I also installed an indicator lamp hooked to the power at the cell to let me know if the circuit breaker trips. I set it up to pull about 15 amps. I accomplish this by how strong the solution is mixed.The only time I've had it trip is when I think I can push to produce more :oops: ,(see below). I always do my initial test on a heavy duty battery charger, I let it cook for 1 hour to stabilize the amps, if the amps are low add more sodium bisulfate - if you draw to much amps drain some out and add more water.
You will have to play with it the first time to get it right but after that you just mix the solution the same. The first one I made I ended up with alot of rust in the water, I found out that you HAVE TO USE A GOOD GRADE OF
STAINLESS!!! I haven't done any other mods. to the engine at all.Some heavier duty trucks don't use the o2 sensor to control the fuel mix just the MAPand Mass air flow sensors. I used a 3/8" hose from the cells to the intake manifold,it's plumbed in next to the vac. line for the pcv conection. I know I should use a bubbler or something to prevent a flash back to the cells but I just haven't got around to it yet :roll: .

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2008-04-05T19:29:03-04:00 2008-04-05T19:29:03-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17579#p17579 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> Statistics: Posted by onlineatvsalvage — Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:29 pm


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2008-04-05T19:23:50-04:00 2008-04-05T19:23:50-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17578#p17578 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> extremely efficient electrolyzer (over unity or close to it) or you tuned the engine to run leaner than normal stoichiometric. What did you do?

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2008-04-05T15:27:04-04:00 2008-04-05T15:27:04-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17571#p17571 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> Statistics: Posted by gagekko — Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:27 pm


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2008-04-05T12:29:09-04:00 2008-04-05T12:29:09-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1897&p=17567#p17567 <![CDATA[Just wanting to say hi.]]> . I haven't looked at the forum much but I like what I am seeing. I'm trying to get to the point where I can run on streight hho, in time. Well I going to do some looking around now.

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