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OUPower.com Discussion Board for Over Unity Power Research 2005-08-17T00:27:53-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/feed.php?f=1&t=177 2005-08-17T00:27:53-04:00 2005-08-17T00:27:53-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=177&p=1576#p1576 <![CDATA[Stupid Questions about Chris' new electrolyzer design]]> Statistics: Posted by BEMET — Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:27 am


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2005-08-16T19:35:22-04:00 2005-08-16T19:35:22-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=177&p=1568#p1568 <![CDATA[Stupid Questions about Chris' new electrolyzer design]]> Statistics: Posted by kevinsatterfield — Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:35 pm


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I currently run an EFI mini van but will be fixing up a 6cy econoline and want to have it run a booster that way at 2.65 a gallon I can still afford to go to work.

Been reading a lot lately and think I am close to ready to make the unit. I am just a lot jittery about hydrogen and how much of a bang it makes. Over all I want to make the system as safe as possible even at the expense of a bit of gas production. No computer, so many less hassels.

Thanks to all who post here for the great help along the way.

Thaelin

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I have not seen stainless steel offered as such in the metals section of Home Depot or Lowes, but that doesn't mean that they do not have it in other departments. They both do carry a somewhat limited supply of stainless steel hardware.

I obtain my 304 and 316 grades of stainless steel sheet from a metals supplier, but they are quite expensive (especially 316), and costs to have the metal sheered to size is high.

The method of generating the frequencies can be as simple as the output of a 555 timer pulse generator fed into a car audio amp, or as complex as you desire. This is experimentation after all, trying new and different things with what we have available to us.

Bob

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2005-08-15T17:44:02-04:00 2005-08-15T17:44:02-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=177&p=1505#p1505 <![CDATA[Stupid Questions about Chris' new electrolyzer design]]> Statistics: Posted by Chris — Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:44 pm


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2005-08-15T16:47:35-04:00 2005-08-15T16:47:35-04:00 https://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=177&p=1502#p1502 <![CDATA[Stupid Questions about Chris' new electrolyzer design]]>
So if I had an electrolyzer with 8 plates with water in between them, then I would have 7 cells in my series electrolyzer. if the water level was raised above the top of the plates, then the electricity would take the path of least resistance and go straight from one end plate to the other, resulting in just one cell.

with Chris' design, he forces the plates to be either positive or negative by welding all the positive plates together and all the negative plates together. so there is no way for the water to "short" it out.

it's the alternating of positive and negative plates that results in the breakdown of the water molecule. in the series cell design, the end plates are the only plates with either a positive or negative charge applied. In Chris' design, all the plates have either a positive or negative charge applied.

the benefit of the series cell design is it is much more compact. you can have 7 cells (the optimum number) in a very small space. The disadvantage is you can't have any leakage and you have to make sure to maintain the highest water level possible without shorting a cell out (overfilling the cell). it's not the best design for a car (unless you have a way to stabalize the unit). It's also more difficult to build correctly. Chris' design was done with ease of buildability (is that a word?) and toughness in mind...it was designed to be used in a car. the disadvantage (don't take it personally Chris :D ) is that each container is only one cell and you would need 7 containers to have 7 cells...not as compact.

7 cells is the optimum number for a 12 volt system. 12 volts divided 7 cells is 1.7 volts per cell, which is very close to Faraday's theoretical limit of 1.2 (the minimum amount of volts required for electrolysis to occur). thus it is very efficient.

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