by z_p_e » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:08 pm
Wow navi-gator,
That's certainly a surprise.
I'm not sure where you're coming from, but the usual response to this type of thinking is that it is too far outside the box. Saying that this is limited thinking is puzzling.
Power can be developed inside a closed system, of course. Just not excess power, or power beyond what is required to operate the system.
The earth? No I would say the earth IS an open system. For starters, the earth receives cosmic, sun, and other rays and particles which have profound effects on the atmosphere and environment in which we live. In addition, the ZPF is omni-present, and surely the earth intercepts and converts this energy into many if not all the complex processes that take place here. However, we have not yet learned how to reliably and intentionally intercept or convert this "dominant energy" (as Bob calls it) ourselves.
How can you have more power coming out of a system or device than going in if no outside energy enters this system? If you are producing energy above and beyond the input energy, where is the excess coming from? It can not just appear from nowhere, it MUST come from somewhere.
For all overunity devices or systems, the sole purpose of the closed system is to "perturb", "make connection to", "extract from", "tap into" the universal energy (a term I prefer). That is the only way to achieve overunity with a closed system; the excess energy must be added to it.
The closed system device is simply a means to the desired end...excess energy.
Darren