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Chemical Reduction Hydrogen Production

This forum is for discussions regarding Hydrogen Production by all means OTHER than Electrolysis. It is also for discussing the end results of Hydrogen Applications such as Water Engines & Water Cars.

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Postby Jehu » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:22 am

Just going over the posts in the old thread ( ) alot was said about salt bridges and ionic membrains. Just thinking about it, would you really need it? Personally I don't think so. If anyting it would complicate the process more than it needs to be. I also want to clarify that you are not using Calcium Oxide in this process, right?

Anyway.

So we are wanting to use only waste materials in this process. Ok, so we can use gal iron. Simple. what would a seperator like and ionic membrane or a salt bridge do? Not much. Maybe stop the electrodes touching if we want to use the rechargeable method. Ok, so scrap the membrane.

So, if the Sulfuric Acid instantly attacks the gal iron to create our hydrogen, what are we going to use for electrodes? Well, why not use more gal iron? Will it get eaten away by the acid? No. Why?

You see the acid is an electrolyte. It will eventually get saturated with iron and Zinc Ions and the reaction will stop. So in that case we can safely use some gal iron as our electrodes. Then as we apply current to the two electrodes, the iron and zinc will seperate out of the acid and move to each electrode. Basic Electroplating without the real plating effect. Now we also have a large surface area due to the iron and Zinc metal precipitate. Stop the current and the acid then attacks the metal again creating more H2. Or we could ad Ammonia (NH3) and get the same result? Or why don't we do both?

We having fun yet?

Also what interesting properties do Ammonia and Ammonium Nitrate have? Do Endo and Exothermic reaction sound familar? We could have some fun with this. :twisted:
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Postby resident_genius » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:22 am

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Postby FlashBang » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:27 am

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Postby AlaskaStar » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:00 pm

FlashBang:

The hydrogen comes from the WATER. This is why WATER is added to lead acid batteries when you service them/ maintain them over time.

When the plating process is started, there is hydrogen released, BUT more oxygen is released. You MUST keep the plating voltage BELOW 2 VOLTS. If the voltage goes higher, the plates turn nasty BLACK as the plating is now ionized, not plated. 1 volt is better but use TONS OF CURRENT, and you will have a really fast plating.

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A lot of that data was lost when the company dissolved. I should have shot someone and thrown the body into the ocean for fish food. It would have only removed one more greedy bastard from the face of this earth. He literally makes his kids and wife SUFFER for his personal greed. I am not the only one who wants to exterminate this person.

Those nice bits of data are gone. I am sure that with some experimenting, you can figure it out. Much like we did.

I can tel you that it wasn't very much, because for speed and safety, ease of the wash down cycle, we used 20% H2SO4 in 80% water. This meant that by weight, per gallon, we didn't need very much material to get a LOT of hydrogen. The chemical reduction process ONLY PRODUCES HYDROGEN GAS. It is not Hydroxy, It is NOT HHO, it is only H2.

The DVD offers good clues of were to start.

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Postby Jehu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:54 am

After doing a quick search for kobold in google, most of the entries bring up references to D&D and WoW. Also the name Kobold is from German mythology, marking it as a gnome or and spirit. Now European Alchemists called Sulfuric Acid spirit of vitriol. Any connection?

Or is this the company that you were refering to?


They make measurement and control technology.
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