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ANY SCIENTISTS IN THE HOUSE?

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ANY SCIENTISTS IN THE HOUSE?

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Postby BEMET » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:26 pm

When the price of gasoline went over $2.00 per gallon I started looking at alternatives again.

Comprehend and copy nature, V. Schauberger
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Well since you asked.

Postby cnctony » Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:25 pm

First the water has to be at the right temprature to weaken the covalent electron bonds. In liquid water, the excited OH-stretch vibration relaxes by transferring energy to an overtone of the H-O-H bending vibration.
However, as the temperature increases the hydrogen bonds of water get weaker, which leads to an increase of the frequency of the stretch vibration and a decrease of the frequency of the bending vibration. As a result, the overtone of the bending mode shifts out of resonance with the stretching mode.

The magnets or electromagnets are used to align the H2O molecule.
Water, being dipolar, can be partly aligned by an electric field and this may be easily shown by the movement of a stream of water by an electrostatic source. Very high field strengths are required to reorient water in ice such that freezing is inhibited. Even partial alignment of the water molecules with the electric field will cause pre-existing hydrogen bonding to become bent or broken. The balance between hydrogen bonding and van der Waals attractions is thus biased towards van der Waals attractions giving rise to less cyclic hydrogen bonded clustering.

See one of the following links to understand the electrical and chemical nature of water.

http://www.chem1.com/acad/sci/aboutwater.html
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/molecule.html More technical site.



Once the molecules are aligned and heated to the optimum temperature they are fed through a small opening passing a set of small electrodes and instanly turn into hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen generation process is controlled by pulsing the DC to the pump motor and to the electrodes independantly so we can control the flow of water or KOH and production of hydrogen. 1 liter of water can produce over 1600 liters of hydrogen and over 600 liters of oxygen. So we dont need a lot of water in the chamber to produce a lot of hydrogen we only need a lot of reaction....... We can keep all the water we want in a reserve tank.


The aluminum can and KOH reaction is best explained by this link.
http://www.science.fau.edu/chemistry/md ... se.prn.pdf

See this site for everything you never wanted to know about water...
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/
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Postby thrival » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:57 am

Stan Meyer's last invention he was working on before his death
was a sort of spark plug size device with outer and inner
electrodes between which water passed. The space was very
narrow. Seems like such a device would be even better for
passing steam, fog or water vapors. The amount of energy
needed (concentrated) through such a small device, has got
to be minimal, compared to plates.
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Postby thrival » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:13 am

...like a paint spray nozzle with central needle valve
protruding through the orifice, common to airbrushes.
A copper coil around the needle could create an EM
field to help cleave the H20 bond as water passes
through.

Acceleration would be a matter of regulating the water/
vapor flow. Couldn't such a device be built into the
delivery end of stock carburator venturis???
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YES!!!! YES !!!!! YES!!!!!

Postby cnctony » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:06 pm

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Stan meyer?

Postby cnctony » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:17 pm

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Postby thrival » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:21 pm

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Postby thrival » Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:22 pm

:oops:

Need to correct my "facts" before someone else does.
Not the Spirit of America, but the Pollution Packer, ran
off high strength hydrogen peroxide. The reaction
obtained in it's passage through multi-layers of silver
screens was as much chemical as electrical. The hydrogen
peroxide motor was patented by Tony Fox of Minneapolis;
so says George Delaney, ex race car driver.

High proof hydrogen peroxide is corrosive hazmat stuff,
and expensive, crystals are shock-sensitive/explosive,
nothing to fool with
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Balloon ?

Postby cnctony » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:58 am

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