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Postby Hybrid » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:35 am

Hydrogenworld I've posted way back about switching polarity by
using a timer. Watching that vid in slow mode, it seems to have a
big burst of output over 1.5 secs each time it is turned on & then settles
to a constant flow. The pos electrode is the only decaying one.
A friend told me he can make a Lyser switch poles so the electrodes
last longer equaly. I know conditioning works, but when I mentioned
pwm to him, he said he can cause a wide pulse during switching poles.
The power will still be on via caps between switching poles he said.
I just vision that s/s cable bursting gas every 1.5 secs by switching it.
Just a thought. As you know, I like the idea of s/s cable.
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Postby Hydrogenworld » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:52 am

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s/s cabel, do you mean the wire he use? .. yea, i like it to - more surface area! great idéa. But now it makes sense - the initial burst when he starts the cell, that one i can see... :D ... simply on and of!
I found a video on you tube where they did such a thing and the best part whit that was that the charge remains in the cell for some time - meaning that the cell is selfruning during the off mode. (For s ashort time)
Will look it up and post a link.
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Postby Hydrogenworld » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:31 am

Brain food....
Now here´s a configuration i have had in minde for i while. Imagen a series insulated cell [- + -].
The Katod (-) is made up by a thin foil/film on a Teflon piece (tube/plate) and the Anod (+) is a mesh type electrode.

[ I- + -I- + -I- + -I- + -I- + -I]

The foil/film whould offcorse need to be calculated to whitstand the charge.
Is this a dead idéa, or can it lead us somewhere?

I will even trow in a picture so no one misunderstands me!
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Postby Hybrid » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:56 am

The mesh will shed more in this case I think. Make the mesh neg ;]
The closest surfaces will shed more, but all the mesh will shed.
It will get bagged for efficiency for surface area being uneven.
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Postby Hybrid » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:43 am

Hydrogenworld here's a Cell I give the name "FLOODED CELL"
This is to be pollarity switched via a set timer I mentioned.
A 1 gallon per min elec pump can draw water & gas out the top &
into the base of a bubbler, while a gravety fed line flows water
back into the Lyser. So in this case, it is a constantly Flooded Cell.
The magnet stack I've drawn in this, is push - pull = push etc etc.
I brought 20 of these. 1 1/4 outside x 3/8 inside x 3/16 thick.
The spacers are 2mm thick, which suits the cable spacing.
The centre threaded bar is brass. The magnetic gauss is massive !
I don't know if the magnets will create a spiral repel in the water
while current is applied through the S/S cable. Maybe a benefit.
The pole are N/S vertical. It would be easier to leave them out, but
I thought I'd draw them in to see what other people have to say.
The diagonal clearance pos to neg etc is 1/8" Room for gas to rise.
Hydrogenworld 90+% of these cables have 4 sides facing eachother.
This cell is not the easiest to build. Anybody who wants to tackle one
of these, be my guest. Nobody will make millions on HHO anyway.
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Postby Hydrogenworld » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:08 pm

Hybrid
Now we are talking WFC :D . nice idéa.
But i whould like to discust more on what the magnets do for us. Magnets in the cell is new to me so.
I whant to understand this - Hybrid - tell me what you know.

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Postby Hybrid » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:32 pm

Hydrogenworld it's fingers crossed that they might charge the water
or cause some resonance or create a slight whirlpool sturing effect.
If I had some pot hydroxide, I'd test them for any mag field effects.
They might do Nuthin'. Try anything once. Females only tho ;]
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Postby Hydrogenworld » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:07 pm

Okey, i think i understand. Have you consider to look at the steering columb on a car that has the remote (comunication between the radio/cd player) built in? these solutions whant be as vulnerable... just thinking out loud here! But then there is the question on HV (high voltage right?) hmm...
Well, just a thought ... donu how much it´s worth .. 8) Let me know.

Secondly, why not use a capacitor on each tube/cell and controling the pulsing via an electrical/digital timer??? ... thinking out loud again,
i do that a lot... lol

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Postby chemelec » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:59 am

If you Email Me, the Word "ELECTRONIC" MUST appear in the Subject Line.

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