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Meyer fuel cell

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Postby SeaMonkey » Sat May 10, 2008 7:05 pm

I appreciate your comment.

Please do not think that I am trying to limit your experimental flexibility in any way. I'm simply trying to steer those who may be interested towards the true nature of the phenomenon that Stan discovered.

If you read the European Patent you'll get a much clearer picture in your mind of what Stan was working with to produce the hydroxy gas with such little power input.

It requires some searching to discover the unrevealed details.

Such as the minimum voltage gradient to achieve sufficient stress on the water molecules: 1500 VDC

The pulse frequencies and their harmonics: Bob Boyce has verified these with his own research and has made them freely available to any who want the details.

There is nothing at all wrong with experimenting with conventional electrolysis and finding ways to improve efficiency there.

But to replicate Stan's success you must get outside the box and into the realm of non-electrolysis as a process.

No direct current flow through the water.

No high voltage breakdown discharge through the water.

No plasma discharge through the water.

Once you finally see the Stan Meyer Pulse Driven High Voltage Resonance process work - then you'll "get it!"

Best regards to all,
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Postby kaosad » Sat May 10, 2008 8:55 pm

I do agree that higher resitivity is better. However, one can choose to use deionized water or distilled water. That will give enough resistance for experimental work. I don't think insulating your plates is that easy.

Distilled water can be up to 18.31 MΩ·cm. Using 10cm by 10cm plates placed 1cm apart gives 183.1KΩ. So theoretically, if you use 1500VDC, you get less than 0.01A.

I doubt harmonics of pulses would do any good. What is needed is the pure wave that matches the natural frequency of the setup.
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What kind of water?

Postby SeaMonkey » Sun May 11, 2008 6:28 pm

Stan was very pleased to announce that his Non-Electrolysis Fuel Cell would work equally well with any commonly available clean water.

He pointed out that whatever impurities were in the water would settle to the bottom of the cell and would require periodic "flushing" to remove the deposits.

The frequencies which work best for the cell have been independently verified by many researchers. There are several which are harmonically related; any one of the several may be used by itself (some are more effective than others), or as with the Boyce method the three most effective frequencies may be applied simultaneously.

Some researchers have even been able to isolate the pulsing waveform that is most efficient. It is a composite waveform consisting of a desired fundamental frequency with the harmonics superimposed to make what looks like a rippled sawtooth.

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"I doubt harmonics of pulses would do any good. What is needed is the pure wave that matches the natural frequency of the setup."

Many have thought this initially, but experimentation has revealed that exceedingly narrow pulses, which are very rich in harmonics, are a necessity for maximum efficiency. It has also been discovered, primarily by Boyce, that the positioning and sequencing of the pulses is very critical.
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Re: What kind of water?

Postby chemelec » Mon May 12, 2008 10:18 am

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