Many of joes claims are just plain crazy and some have been debunked my many people with qualifications exceeding mine. Many more people have failed to get results. I have even replicated some of his party tricks seen on videos.
Joe as he says in a video he buys petrol (gas in the states) as its far easier.
I have talked in person to three people who have Joe cells and do claim better millege and performance and I have no reason to doubt them.
In the case of wren..why doesnt he allow someone to independently test (in private and at a secret location) any of his claims. I live in Australia and would gladly do it at my own expense. We do not have a MIB problem in Australia.
I was engaged by the NEC earlier this year to film and assist a test rig that Peter was getting up and running. My in person observation suggested it would never get up and running and it never did. Peter had his speaking engagement cancelled in the USA. That made me very un popular, but I refuse to report what I was told rather than what I observed.
I also followed up with many dozens of people who had attended seminars..the latest not one was able to get results.
I also know some parties sell Joe cells ($1500) on the quiet and do profit.
What motivates them ...ego and guru status.
I have distanced my self as I have recieved underlying threats both legal and otherwise and I have a family (two young daughters) I do not wish to expose to the lunitic fringe.
Many of these people resort to the MIB as an escape root just as its time to have what they claimed tested. We have no MIB in Australia
Joe ,Peter, Adrian do not have Joe Cells installed on their vehicles running after 13 years I feel that says it all.
I dont discourage Joe cell research...just that people should be aware of their chances before commencment.
I know people who post here, who have been to Joe cell seminars and found what I did, that a lot of untruths were spoken.
So if Wren is the real thing ...why wont he allow anyone to validate his claims?????.
I could go on for hundreds of pages but put Joe cells behind me and I am running with hydroxy and other projects as the results are repeatable and not mythological.
I dont know if this helps but Thats my Opinion?
Check out the Joe Cell2 site it is highly censored and even the moderator quit that one.
Just show me one person in 13 years who has a Joe cell currently running 100%
Kind Regards
MarkStatistics: Posted by MarkinAustralia — Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:53 pm
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