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Bob Boyce
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there Kevin

I still have that 35 amp rack mount regulated equalize/float power supply sitting here waiting for you. I think I paid like $900 for it back when I bought it, so it's one heck of a unit. You need to hurry up and come get it before I end up giving it away to someone else or using it myself. You'll need a strong back because that 35 amp rating is a continuous duty rating Wink

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kevinsatterfield
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Bob....im gonna try to get over this come'n weekend..that PS sure would be nice.I had the same problem before with conditioning and it gets so da gone fustrating,burn'n up small power supplies is got me at wits end......lol
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a little of topic, whats the machine or truck in your pic???
I am happy to see you didnt blow yourself up again...and perhaps with the proper power supply you will get there.
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kevinsatterfield
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Mark the avitar is of an old rock drill i was ru'n last year.Thats wat i do 10 hrs a day everyday.It takes me an hr each way to get to work and that doesnt account for idle time durring rush hr or traffic accidents.Ill be happy to just idle my truck with hydroxy durng the day when the weather is not comfortable being im run'n an outside drill most of the time or durring those idle times on the way home.
Will you ask the person you know doing simialr set up as me to contact me and maybe colaberate on things as im not have'n any luck at all with the electromagnet part of this.A friend is sending a circut soon and that may help and with the help of Mr.Boyce's offer it may do better.I cant seem to even get a hint of magnetism even with the small version electrodes.It may be that i cant get the full dose of 22 amps in the cell...i hope...With a good PS tho ill probably put back together the serries booster and get that going again as it does do good with just streight DC at 5 amps but the conditioning process stumped me on that cuz i kept burnning up my small battery chargers.The booster unit run'n streight DC done great when it pulled 11 amps...lots of gas for such a compact unit.
Rev.e of Mr.Boyce is still on my to do list as its the best thing going rather than just a simple 555 circut.But i do want to understand this HV thing too im just become'n a knolwledge nut after joinning the group ... ill be proud to use water as a suppliment fuel or wat ever...looking forward to save'n some money.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Keven,
i was curious about the drilling rig as my father and granfather ran one for many years drilling for water in the Australian outback. They used a percussion type rather than an auger.
I will contact my friend and I am sure he will echange notes and ideas with you. I will get him to email you.
I am proceeding with my Boyce project as i really belive in what he has done.
i am still following up with peter lowrie in NZ to see what results we can get there
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kevin,
i havnt been able to contact my friend yet.
I was just poking out the files page..i see you did a Bob replication...i was wondering what sort of performance you got out of it as it looks well made
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kevinsatterfield
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey Mark that booster really done good for its size....im in the process of put'n it back together.I ran into the same kinda problems that glen is have'n when it dropped to 2 amps and didnt act like it wanted to get back to 5 or 6 amps as thats where it seemed to perform really good.The most amp draw i got from it was 8 amps and then it didnt seem like it was doing any better than it did at 5 amps.I think my problem was in conditioning phase the water level wasnt able to maintain a proper level.It couldve been a number of things so im gonna put it back together and giver another go. The electrolyte couldve concentrated too much er something....I got hooked on Hermans system before get'n back to 5 or 6 amps so i didnt get to ask about wat all my problems were....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well maybe with some luck you and i could get our systems running before i leave for vacation. i would really like to get mine running in a week so that i have some run time on the truck before the trip.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin,

Regarding your herman design, hows it comin? I got a little spooked with mine and have stopped until I can do some research on some 'things'.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey kevin, why don't you bring up that power supply that you got from bob, we can try it out this weekend if you haven't already. i need to go back out there and finish drilling the holes for the 1/4 20 bolts that i got, maybe i'll get that done today, lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey waterbard will you tell us wat spooked ya on that?I blew mine up and kinda got spooked but i found the cause of it and have fixed that.I learned something last nite with this design ...its the top with a baffel in it...if the baffel isnt turned in the rite dirrection the convection cooling system doesnt work.I know this as i witnessed it working with the top in the rite dirrection.I got in a hurry with the last rebuild and got it turned the wrong way and it doesnt flow now so i gotta tap the other side in a minute and fix that ...it'll be easier to plug the left side than to remove the top and turn it around.I know how to make the convetion flow in a compact way but with out a refill cap on the standing pipe....i rerouted it all last nite on a temp basis to try and figure out how to do that as Hermans cell pik doesnt show the bottom and i cant tell how he done it.I have a 1 and 1/2 inch cross on its back at the bottom with 1 inch bushings with elbows turned to the cell and standing pipe and on the other side I have the tube from the top side of the cell going into one side and a water feed line in the other side.Its bulky and i dont like it but i cant seem to get a grasp of how to accomplish task at hand so far....guess ill go see if its gonna work like that and go from there.Im gonna put together a 14 cell serries stack over the weekend and and try to plumb them both together that way if one goes down ill at least have the other.hermans cell with the HV part is on hold till i can get a circut to test with.As it is may work as an in effecient booster but maybe a little better if i can get those serries cells plumbed into it....im just play'n around with it as usual....heh heh

Hey Leon..i can bring it up ,but being you are run'n a flooded cell design you wont need anything more than just yer car battery as those things dont have a problem pull'n power with out a condition layer.The power supply is for conditionning those serries cells.Its gonn amake life alot easier than deal'n with a battery charger while conditionnoing those plates for serries cells THANK YOU MR BOYCE!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol well ok, i just thought i'd suggest it since i wasn't sure
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well another blow out this weekend on the Herman cell.This one was much more violent as the cell was only half full of water.I tried to reconfigure the cooling system to work with the standing pipe but failed in doing so and the cell became too Hot to deal with.....Oh well......my next cell construction xpierience is going to be a slotted cell design.The reason for the blow out this time was becuase I was pushing air in on the air side and created a path for the other end that was being ignited even tho the tube had water in it ..just wasnt enough .The air created a path for theignited gas to flow into the cell and WAAAABOOOOOOMMM.......no one was hurt but we were soaked with water as it blew out hard this time.Still suprising enough it didnt blow the top off it blew the electrodes off.Im bout to give up on it all if these slotted cells give me a problem.......lol
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well when and if you give up then pass me those plates, I'll put them to good use, lol. But I'll be sure to keep pushing you along till you get it working right on your truck and/or car. Never leave a brother behind!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi kevin,
I am so happy you are ok, i always worry about blowing yourself up.
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