Ravi's Meyer Replication- Tap Water to H2

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

The input to the Water Fuel Cell (WFC) was 0.51 Amps only. Just made the videos and uploaded. Its totally Pulse Voltage and Frequency based...

Video 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vzTzqpp-Uk

This video shows the innards of the WFC without water.

Video 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNJ_vjuO_ME

This video shows Freshly filled Tap Water. No other impurities (Read no Salts or Acids or anything at all...just plain tap water and not distilled water) added.

Video 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1lScTsHBkQ

This video is after the top is sealed and with an input of 0.5 Amps
from the Frequency Generator.

Enjoy the videos.. Smile

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

NOW THE OUTPUTS:

Presently the approximate volumetric gas discharge by an inverted
measuring flask is given below:

INPUT--H2+O2 cc/sec---H2 only cc/sec---H2 Lit/hr

0.5 A-----7.00--------------4.66-------------16.776
1.0 A-----8.66--------------5.78-------------20.808
1.5 A-----11.66-------------7.78-------------28.008
2.0 A-----14.00-------------9.33-------------33.588
3.0 A-----16.36------------10.91-------------39.276
4.0 A-----18.00------------12.00-------------43.200

*H2+O2 was calculated on an average basis for collection time of 30
secs. I'm not very sure of H2 and O2 volumes as I've calculated H2 as
2/3rd the volume of the total and O2 as 1/3rd the volume. Incase im wrong please do let me know how to calculate these.

MarkinAustralia · Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:43 am Post subject:

Thanks for you figures,
You have done a great job.
One thing we need to know is the voltage so we can work out the power I.E volts x amps = watts.
Then we can compare the gas out put to power used.
Faradays is around 2.4 watts per hour per litre.
Great videos
Mark
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SeaMonkey

Ravzz,

Your video definitely shows some vigourous gas output.

Your device construction seems to be as laid out in D14.PDF by Patrick J. Kelly.

Patrick's Page

Are you using the pulsing circuit from that source as well?

That style of construction is one that is, from an economic standpoint, one that would be within the realm of possibility for an old retired geezer such as myself with very limited resources. It doesn't require near as much 316 Stainless Steel and painstaking workmanship as the full multiplate rectangular series cell layout.

We all eagerly await further reporting on its operational parameters and efficiency.

kumaran

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

For Kumaran:

I'm not very sure if you are well versed with Stanley Meyer Technology.

I would be for one thing very impressed if you could generate anywhere close to the outputs mentioned with pulsed 12 Volts and HALF an AMP!!

Please donot confuse this with the regular high ampearage electrolysis. This is low ampearage high volage pulsed electrolysis!! wherein you use the voltage potential to break down the covalent bonds and by the way the water doesnt heat up as in the regular electrolysis. The temperature rise is at the most 3 - 4 deg above ambient after about half hour of working!!

If you take a closer look at the third video you would see large bubbles of the range of 4mmto 10mm+leaving the tubes, so dont go by the more visible slow moving smaller bubbles.

To SeaMonkey and MarkinAustralia :

I initially started off with Dave's circuit.....was in touch with him to sort out a few issues with the circuits the went on to make a few improvements. You could say that Dave's circuit was the skeleton where i started off but had to make some changes. Of the original circuit i had a few burnt/blown out components and low gas generation as my setup is with 9 tubes of 9 inch lengths and his was 6 tubes of 5 inch lengths so the exposed surface areas are comparitively higher. From what I presumed Stan used tubes of 18 inches so I went for half his length but the same number as in his video.

Material used is 316L seamless pipes. Annealed for 3 hours in inert amosphere of Argon to remove all residual magnetism and cold work stresses before they are assemled. Leads used are 316L 1.2mm dia wires to all 18 pipes individually spot welded. The inner pipe is 1/2 inch longer than the outer at the bottom for the setup for connections.

You need to be very patient with the conditioning of the pipes.....it took me months to get the generation you see.

Volts x Amps = Watts

12 x 0.51 = 6.12 watts the generation is around 7 cc/sec

which coverts to 16.776 Lits / hour

16.776 x 2.4 watts (Faraday/lit/hour generation) = 40.262 Watts

Well I seem to be generating the equivalent of 40.2 watts as per Faraday with just 6.12 Watts.........I hope this answers Kumaran's question aswell.

I dont know if im right but I seem to be generating 550% excess

as the above works out to 40.2/6.12 x 100 = 656.86%

656.86 - 100 (Faraday) = 556.86% OU !!

Correct me if im wrong with the calculations.

Alright now to the crux of the situ... I dont know how long i'll be allowed to post this stuff over the net as initialy when I was in touch with Dave I had sent some pics to him and my place was raided within a few hours after the mail to him. I was kind of helped out during this time by Dave and Patrick Kelly.Though ive had success a few months ago I had not come out in the open but now Ashtweth of Panaces Bocaf has convinced me to go public as this could save me any more future harassment.....Im taking a huge chance by posting this right now.... you can see more details of the problem at

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EngineerinIndia.htm

The above writeup is on a few other sites aswell. This had happened some time in Jan this year.

I'll try and post a few more videos using 12 Volts 1 amp 1.5 amp.... at the earliest and post the links. Try and save the vids incase theyre removed.

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

Generation of H2 + O2 was 7CC per sec

the H2 generation was 4.66 CC/sec and this works out to 16.776 lits of H2/hr

glenn_aircooled · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:11 am Post subject:

I wonder if 100 people all emailed to Dave with notes that they had also
replicated this Great experiment.
Would we see these Strangers visit all over the world.?
I am wondering how thin could this Secret department be stretched.?
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I for one would not enjoy the intimidation to my family that others we
know have endured.
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I really hope you can get others to replicate your version - and spread the
hope.
Good Luck , Glenn.

Big-bubbles · Regular Poster Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 14

Great job Ravzz...Big bubbles just like I like to see!
Right now I only have small bubbles Crying or Very sad

If you like I do have some questions...
What freq are you using?
Are the lights in your video the timing pulses?
Could you (or somebody else) post the circuit you are using before the MIB get to you. The world is waiting.

Feel free not to respond if you don't feel like it
Bb
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ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

Posted new video a while ago.

Its almost 1 amp and look at the way the leads to the WFC get heated up and burn the protective tubing. The tubing is in place so that the leads dont get shorted out. I have individual leads coming out of the WFC for each of the pipes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiyfwWuA9gA

MarkinAustralia · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:24 am Post subject:

Thanks for your info. Calculating the combined hydrogen and oxygen is fine as the 2.4 watts per hour is a combinednumber.
I am very impressed with your attention to detail and your figures stack up. I did notice that when you went to higher amps the output was not linear....very interesting. However at these levels you still at least 350% faradays or more . I rember Dave was over 300%.
The one problem I see is scaling it up to get the gas production we need. However it is possible, and would be fun to build lots of them and have a self running engine.
I am sad you have been hassled...may I ask what country or continent you live in. We tend not to have these problems in Australia.
Kind Regards
Mark
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ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

A closeup video of the burnt out leads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nto66FTfdTg

I have no clue as yet why this is happening. The setup probably needs more pipes I guess.

I'll post info if I figure out something.
Shocked

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

Big-bubbles:

The conditioning would take time...just keep lugging and you would end up with bubbles like the ones I get.

The lights are pulse timing circuit visual indicators.

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

The two leads that got burnt go to the same pipe set (+ve & -ve) rest of the leads seem ok.

I'll probably have to check the pipe if it has shorted.

Would post further info on this tomorrow.

ravzz · Regular Poster Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 76

For Markin:

I think the suface area for higher amps needs to be increased to get similar outputs as that of 0.5 Amps......so more number of pipe sets should inrease the efficiency at higher ameparages. Its a presumption but could be given a try in the future....any more ideas on increasing eff. at higher amps??