kevinsatterfield

[kevinsatterfield]

Hey Chris, thanks for responding i was start'n to think nobody was looking.
But yeah i tried to do Bobs idea but didnt understand fully untill i had already drilled the holes.The holes in my pipe 4 now are used for filling and collecting.I pointed the holes up to help run water at highest level possible.The gas comes out nicely but from what i understand after a period of time the pipe will get a white build up on it and across the holes eventually shorting out from cell to cell.So for now, if or when that happens i unbolt and clean the pipe inside and out.But still hope'n to find a way to wash inside of it and remove any build up with out take'n it apart.
Im in need now of figuring out a way to pump the water in through the check valve.I have a small pump that uses a drill to turn and pump but need to fix ends for it so guess i'll be going back to lowes in a minute to get some parts.

[kevinsatterfield]

Chris,
I realize that there will be a need to feed water in during operation,the water is getting conssumed perty quick when i short out the middle and draw 7 or 8 amps.The part about Bobs manifold i wasnt understanding was i thought the one pipe was configured coaxially all the way through and was racking my brain trying to figure that out.

Im thinking about trying to do what i did with the weather stipping again but using the soft plastic stuff and end plates made from the 3/8 metal stock i have.
If i ever get up to spead on the resonating part i understand that there can be absolutely no short outs what so ever.Knowing that is leanning me back to the seperate cell manifold as it prevents any mixing at all of electrolyte.And without bolt holes i think i could have better success.
Locating a single pump has been a chalenge this weekend without any results.I'll need 7 small pumps if i go back to the single cell manifold.Plus on the single cell manifold i should be able to see the water level via tube from primary bubbler to secondary bubbler,with a refill port on the primary.(or something like that)
Anyways its gonna need to be refilled during operation and the way i have it now will be impossible to do if ressonating is a factor.
I've given up on a quick fix so i may just go for a ressonating unit.Or at least attempt to.But then again i do want something under the hood to improve gas milage asap!!!!

If using a submerged unit like Chris's v5 what could we do to help clean it up before burning it?(the gas)Is there a catalyst to use in a bubbler to clean up the white stuff that seem to build up?That unit could be a quick fix while working on a ressonator.

[kevinsatterfield]

Im gonna follow Bob's design,and drill those other 2 holes for gas and just use the pipe for water and put O rings over the holes to keep the white build up off the holes.That will allow me to fill durring operation which is a must to me.
Hats off to Bob..... i finally understand.

[kevinsatterfield]

http://aquatune.com/overview.html

found this and has anyone tried this ? sounds like a great add on to the booster

[Bob Boyce]

About $400 + shipping for a glorified repackaged ultrasonic fogger? He must be stoned on something good

Bob
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[kevinsatterfield]

LOL

seems like everyone is busy here lately,hope we get to see some good stuff this week.I didnt get those holes drilled yet but I do have that boat outta my way now.Looking under the hood of my truck is giving me new inspiration and would love to add a water injection system along with the booster.What are we calling the booster?(just booster?)
I coppied a pic of Herman's car and posted in my folder to look at while im bored and hopefully give some inspiration.

at least that water injection system looks perty........lol
i agree it aint $500 worth of perty....lol

[pertyfly]

Hey,
I'm looking for a good water injection system, so I looked into this. After seeing everything that's out (and the extreme poor design and workability of most products) I'm thinking of designing my own.

However, I did look into it, and thought their descriptions and everything were interesting. I decided to look online for anyone who has tried it, and possibly written a comment or rating on the product.

Here's what I found:
http://www.remnantsaints.com/AlternativeUtilities/Hydrogen/aquatune.htm

It seems to be a fairly well written article with some decent calculations as opposed to just "feel" or guessing.

HOWEVER ... this critique is done by the guy at hydrogen-boost.com, so I guess he MAY have some sort of bias against them. I really don't know. Afterall, he is selling a hydrogen booster. Also, ya never know, and he may have one of those in development, and was using that for his research or something, and he's planning on selling one soon, and getting these guys out of his market Doubtfull, though.

[pertyfly]

Here's a link to the same article except at the actual author's website:

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/september2002.html

[pertyfly]

Ahh, just one more.

I figured I HAD to add this since it was a test done in a very controlled way by popular mechanics

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/1802932.html?page=4&c=y

They noticed NO benefits, and actually quite a large drawback to using this. Hmm, quite unfortunate.

How can a company like that where the product hasn't worked in any tests actually sell it? They do offer a 30-day money back guarantee, so I don't understand. It's not like they can have people buy it and say "Too bad!"

Oh well. Also, the other devices in this PM article that they tested are interesting as well. All of them either had a HUGE dtop in performance, or no difference.

[eco]

Water injection only work for turbo or supercharged cars.It doesn't work for N/A cars.AquaTune is not real water injection.Best solution is water/metanol injection.Lot of water injection has bad design.Homemade water injection is good but you must test lot of diferent injectors sizes and adjust pump pressure.Best result is if you running over 15psi of bost.If water injection working below 5-6 psi is danger becouse you can overflow engine.The rest of devices(magnets,engine ionisers,tornado) are shits.Sory,people who is selling
those stuff are robber.

[nakros]

[kevinsatterfield]

Off work today going to eye doctor........

Today i plan on getting the parts i need to duplicate bobs manifold.The bat box is gonna have to be a flooded cell design i guess because i cant fit a unit in a comaprtment like i hoped.It would fit if I used bolts like i tried with the weather stripping.Im just gonna do Bobs design 4 now,Terro has had sucsess with it,but with no manofold.

Im not give'n up on the bat box just putting it on hold 4 now.I should have some udates 2 nite.

[kevinsatterfield]

I think i done well today:

Drilled,sanded,and clean some plates(with alcohol and rubbergloves)
Picked up some manifold parts(finally got it rite....i hope lol )
probably could've put it all together if i had got the drill bit i need for the tap on end plates.All in all this litle guy aint that bad to do. Looking forward to start testing it.

from searching around this evening alot of countries are working on hydrogen and seems the oil heads are gonna try and keep us from using it.( duu hu) greedy bastards what are they gonna do say it puts off toxic water

[kevinsatterfield]

well as much as ia wanted an update 2nite my holes got off in the pipe.After bolting it all up i found this out.Just gotta make sure the next jig is more accurate.And i cut the pipe twice and it is still tooo short.......

[pertyfly]

Nice work on the project so far. It's lookin pretty good. I see you have the gas/water manifold now so it's dual purpose.

Keep it up, and be sure to keep postin!