Creation versus Evolution
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Creation versus Evolution
by Tronix » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:43 pm
If He could turn water into wine ... maybe we can turn it into fuel.
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by Jebus » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:01 am
The accuracy of carbon dating is absolutely irrelevant. I was using it in a figure of speech. No method of estimating the Earth's age is very accurate. The point is that if you are looking at purely scientific evidence, there is much much more that leads to the conclusion that the that the Earth is old as opposed to young. And no, the billions of years claimed today are not mostly based on radiometric dating. They are mostly based in the astronomical sciences, radiometric dating can't even come close to estimating ages that old. The half-lives of the elements analysed are much too short.
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by thrival » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:23 pm
blackcat:
I agree that religion tends to want to make it an either/or issue when in
fact it can be both. God is deeply involved in the mechanics, however He
wishes to go about creation. The other problem is that scientists aren't
always honest, but tend to fudge the evidence that doesn't fit their
paradigm. A lot of "evidence" for evolution is circumstantial and reaching
at best, when it isn't outright fraudulent. Maybe the best evidence FOR
evolution is mutations of bacteria and acquired resistance. Still that
doesn't preclude intelligent input at a higher level. After all, bacterial
'engines' are powered by radiation coming from somewhere else.
Radiant energy penetrates the deepest recesses, caves, even passes
through the earth. We like to think of the sun as a big hydrogen furnace,
but Who is behind it!
I've never heard a die-hard evolutionist explain just how chaos orders
itself, and manages to maintain a beach-head and even evolve, with all
that other chaos ripping at its flanks. When you get down into the nitty-
gritty, a certain number of things necessary to create life would all need
to happen at the same time, and the likelihood of that is such
a big number to be ridiculous. On the other hand, Creationists tend to
gloss over the fact that creation is still happening, i.e. God might
have rested, but didn't quit on the 7th day.
What we prefer to believe is totally irrespective of the facts. Our beliefs
don't create reality, but only what we DO based upon those beliefs.
There's evidence for the noahic flood but also that the earth is much
older than biblical accounts. For example petroleum reserves are
often found layered and at different depths, even miles deep. That would
suggest more than one major cataclysm.
I agree that religion tends to want to make it an either/or issue when in
fact it can be both. God is deeply involved in the mechanics, however He
wishes to go about creation. The other problem is that scientists aren't
always honest, but tend to fudge the evidence that doesn't fit their
paradigm. A lot of "evidence" for evolution is circumstantial and reaching
at best, when it isn't outright fraudulent. Maybe the best evidence FOR
evolution is mutations of bacteria and acquired resistance. Still that
doesn't preclude intelligent input at a higher level. After all, bacterial
'engines' are powered by radiation coming from somewhere else.
Radiant energy penetrates the deepest recesses, caves, even passes
through the earth. We like to think of the sun as a big hydrogen furnace,
but Who is behind it!
I've never heard a die-hard evolutionist explain just how chaos orders
itself, and manages to maintain a beach-head and even evolve, with all
that other chaos ripping at its flanks. When you get down into the nitty-
gritty, a certain number of things necessary to create life would all need
to happen at the same time, and the likelihood of that is such
a big number to be ridiculous. On the other hand, Creationists tend to
gloss over the fact that creation is still happening, i.e. God might
have rested, but didn't quit on the 7th day.
What we prefer to believe is totally irrespective of the facts. Our beliefs
don't create reality, but only what we DO based upon those beliefs.
There's evidence for the noahic flood but also that the earth is much
older than biblical accounts. For example petroleum reserves are
often found layered and at different depths, even miles deep. That would
suggest more than one major cataclysm.
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